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Will Trump Preside over the Wedding between the Fed & Treasury? And what would it mean for Markets?

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0:00lesson

Fed rate hike and market reaction

  • Fed raised rates first time in 3 years
  • Market priced in rate hike over last few months
  • Rate hike unexpected 6 months ago
  • Never assume outcomes are certain
  • Conviction vs. certainty
1:52lesson

Fed-Treasury relationship

  • Fed and Treasury may eventually merge
  • Marriage analogy with potential for conflict
  • Globalization is no longer a reality
  • World no longer cooperating
  • Fed hike led to 10-year yield at highest in a year
3:45lesson

Rate hikes and global implications

  • Rate hike not a big deal on absolute basis
  • Worsh's credibility established by raising rates
  • Rate hike not necessarily bad for US
  • Global rates are rising
  • China is an outlier with low rates
5:54lesson

Treasury and global demand for US debt

  • Rest of the world continues to buy treasuries
  • Foreign holdings of treasuries at all-time high
  • Bond vigilantes not showing up in spades
  • Treasuries not defended as investment
  • Milkshake theory predicated on rising rates
7:58lesson

US dollar and global reserve currency

  • US has advantage as global reserve currency
  • Dollar may weaken but not to extreme levels
  • US negotiating with global partners
  • Pressure on global economy as rates rise
  • US not in uniquely bad position
9:51lesson

Fed and Treasury roles in the system

  • Fed and Treasury both involved in dollar management
  • Treasury borrows and spends, Fed sets monetary policy
  • Treasury sets dollar policy, Fed sets monetary policy
  • Fed is lender of last resort
  • Control of money is key to power
11:45lesson

Treasury and debt management

  • Treasury manages debt issuance and maturity
  • Treasury oversees sanctions and exchange rate policy
  • Primary dealers mandated to bid on auctions
  • Failed auctions not possible due to legislation
  • Debt management is core to US economy
13:57lesson

Fed's role in monetary policy

  • Fed sets rates and manages reserves
  • Fed is lender of last resort
  • Fed's dual mandate includes stable prices
  • Fed not independent, subservient to Congress
  • Fed's autonomy is limited
16:06lesson

Fed and Treasury independence

  • Fed is not independent, has autonomy
  • Fed must testify to Congress twice a year
  • Fed's independence is operational, not constitutional
  • Congress can revoke Fed's independence
  • Fed and Treasury both involved in dollar system
18:18lesson

Treasury and Fed debt operations

  • Fed buys treasuries during QE and stress
  • Fed holds treasuries on balance sheet
  • Treasury still owes money to Fed
  • Circular debt financing
  • Consolidation of balance sheets could reduce debt
20:27lesson

Fed's influence on economy

  • Fed influences borrowing costs and lending
  • Fed manages bank reserves and credit
  • Fed tries to maintain asset prices
  • Fed's impact on economy is lagged
  • Fed is reactionary agency
22:35lesson

Fed-Treasury Accord and historical context

  • Fed-Treasury Accord established post-WWII
  • Fed maintains autonomy over Treasury
  • Battle over interest rate caps in 1950s
  • Fed's independence is not absolute
  • Treasury can exert influence over Fed
24:46lesson

Fed and Treasury overlap in dollar system

  • Fed is Treasury's bank
  • Treasury General Account at Fed
  • Bank reserves held at Fed
  • Two sides of the same ledger
  • Overlap in dollar management
26:43lesson

Global implications of dollar control

  • US has limited control over Euro dollar market
  • Treasury can deny dollar access via OFAC
  • Fed can supply dollars in crisis
  • Two levers for dollar control
  • US can limit dollar availability
28:50lesson

Treasury and Fed collaboration

  • Treasury increasingly involved in Fed operations
  • Swap lines issued to Argentina and Iran
  • Treasury buyback program instead of Fed
  • Same dollar, different operations
  • Friction in institutional roles
31:01lesson

Friction between Fed and Treasury

  • Fed raises rates, increases US funding costs
  • Fed wants stable prices, Treasury prefers lower rates
  • Conflict over price of money
  • Treasury issues at short end, Fed at long end
  • Two institutions acting on same curve
33:27lesson

Fed independence and political dynamics

  • Fed's independence is operational, not constitutional
  • Congress can revoke Fed's independence
  • Fed is not a political institution
  • Treasury is political by design
  • Friction from overlapping roles
35:28lesson

Future of Fed-Treasury relationship

  • Potential for increased collaboration
  • Friction from overlapping roles
  • Fed's independence is under scrutiny
  • Report on Fed-Treasury dynamics coming in October
  • Understanding roles is key to understanding future changes

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